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flatcats
01-19-2005, 09:29 PM
Thanks for what you did Mr Catter, I'm gonna name these in your honor.

Mr Catter's flagging 2 liter jugs

Here's another inexpensive way to do it if you're like I am and can't get good foam because it's out of season. All you need to make these flagging two liter jugs are one empty 2 liter Coca Cola bottle, some general pupose PVC cement, model glue, 6 inches of 1/2 inch rebar, 16 inches of 1/2 inch ID PVC pressure rated pipe and an a PVC cap. For tools all you will need is a hacksaw for the cutting the pipe and rebar and possibly a file to debur the sharp edges of the rebar after it's been cut.

Here it is, step by step. Shown here is all your materials except the model glue which I forgot in the photograph.

http://www.charliescatfishbaitsoap.com/materials.jpg



Have one or more two liter coca cola style bottles ready that have already been washed out and are dried thoroughly inside. If your state requires that your finished jugs be a certain color (mine doesn't) then make sure they have already been painted in some way and that the paint is dry enough to handle. Now cut your rebar to six inches and either file or grind those sharp edges off. It's not really for your safety, but so that the rebar doesn't hang inside the PVC pipe that it will slide in. Next, cut your 1/2 inch ID PVC pipe to 16 inches.

Ok, now everything is ready to assemble. Let's start with the PVC pipe. Take your model glue and swab the end of the pipe with a good amount of it and then insert the pipe into the bottle. The neck of the bottle will provide a friction fit for the pipe and guide it down until it is perfectly centered in the bottom and touching it. The excess model glue you applied will glue the pipe to the bottom of the bottle in just a few minutes so give it some time to set.

http://www.charliescatfishbaitsoap.com/bottomglue.jpg



While that's setting, apply some more model glue to the neck of the bottle which will finish up glueing the pipe to the bottle and make it all one single unit.

http://www.charliescatfishbaitsoap.com/insertandglue.jpg



Weird looking contraption huh? Ok, when it's all dry gently insert the piece of six inch rebar you cut. The glue on the bottom of the bottle has temporarily softened the plastic so we don't want that rebar punching through it. It will stiffen back up in an hour or so.

http://www.charliescatfishbaitsoap.com/loadbar.jpg



Ok, you've gently inserted the bar so it's time to get out the PVC cement and glue the end cap on.

http://www.charliescatfishbaitsoap.com/presscap.jpg



Now when you've done that you should end up with what you see below. Mine isn't painted because that's not required here in Tennessee and I wanted you to be able to see the guts inside it for this tutorial.

http://www.charliescatfishbaitsoap.com/finished.jpg



From here you just load the jug with your choice of line and hooks and your contact address so you can satisfy the fish and game regs.

It's currently 29 degrees outside and I'm too lazy to take it to the lake for a full scale trial run so here's the best alternative, my son's aquarium. The rebar is sitting towards the base of the bottle and as you can see it floats just flat as can be. The goldfish aren't terribly happy about all this but since I don't charge them any rent they'd better get over it.

http://www.charliescatfishbaitsoap.com/floating.jpg



Ok, so I cheated in the photo below. I personally simulated a big catfish grabbing the imaginary soap on the imaginary line and then tipping the bottle up in an imaginary lake. As all that happened the rebar dependably slid down to the neck end which caused the jug to flag. It looks like the bottle's end is stuck on the bottom but it's really not. This is the position these jugs should all take when they flag.

http://www.charliescatfishbaitsoap.com/flagging.jpg



Granted, This single bottle I've made here has never seen either the river or a fish (ok, scratch that, a set of goldfish), but from tipping it over and over and then tugging the **** out of it it seems like it should be pretty durable in the long run, especially considering it only costed me .42 cent to make it. As soon as the water warms up here and I can test it I will, and then I'll give you my honest opinions on it. Right now I can tell you that it won't ever be as good as a foam jug because this type will be slick and harder to "catch". But like I said earlier, it's a fair alternative when you just can't get any foam.

Feel free to make some and try out the design if you want =)

Steve

Gentleben
01-19-2005, 11:00 PM
Now das a pretty dad gum good looking contraption!!!
And i know it works.

Larry G
01-20-2005, 02:20 AM
Great post Steve. Using foam is a problem when ya live out in the country like myself. The UPS cost to get my foam was more then the foam itself. Sure did add to the total cost of each jug.

dwaynez
01-20-2005, 08:20 AM
Great Post Steve, very descriptive and informative. The pictures are great and the step by step instruction is very good.

dwaynez
01-20-2005, 08:21 AM
Simple but effective way to get some jugs put together, very nice setup and great way to save some money as well.

flatcats
01-20-2005, 08:24 AM
Since I'm off work today I'm gonna go try my lonely little jug this morning on a local TWRA lake. Hopefully it doesn't fall apart or something like that. I'll be sure to post a picture in the crazy event that something hits it and it flags.

LOL, Steve

dwaynez
01-20-2005, 08:26 AM
Cool

We look forward to your posts, good luck with the jugs

MRCATTER
01-20-2005, 11:52 AM
MERCY ME HOW DID I EVER GET SOMETHING NAMED AFTER ME?
GUESS SOMETIMES IT PAYS TO BE IN THE RIGHT PLACE AT THE RIGHT TIME ..THANKS STEVE HOWEVER I WISH ALL THOSE OTHER FOLKS ON THAT SITE KNEW THE TRUTH,BUT HE ALWAYS DELETES HIS MESS UPS THEN POSTS MORE LIES..SOMEDAY THEY WILL FIGURE IT ALL OUT OR GET BRAVE AND ASK ME TO SEND THEM THE TRUTH WHERE I COPIED IT FROM THAT BOARD..AT ANY RATE ,IM GLAD TO BE ON THIS BOARD WHERE THE MESS AINT SO DEEP I NEED BOOTS....AND FOR THE RECORD I FOUND THIS SITE WHEN DIRTY KITTY POSTED ITS NAME IN HIS LIEING POST.

OK NOW LETS GO FISHING AND LEAVE THIS MESS ALONE,ILL RUN UP ON THOSE 3 CRAPATEERS ONE DAY AT LAKE HOUSTON OR CONROE AND THEY WONT EVEN KNOW WHO I AM ...

THANKS AGAIN STEVE,AND HOPE YOU CATCH A BIGON ON THAT JUG THERE.

cherylrw
01-20-2005, 12:15 PM
Wow all this hard work I do and I dont get anything named after me lol
Congrats MRCATTER

Gentleben
01-20-2005, 12:16 PM
Mr catter :lol: cool ur jets :D , this is a fishing forum , all the evil ,what they intend as evil God always turns to good. :lol:
All the good for us cause we get good moral poeple like Flatcats and you on this great site, which Mark and cheryl have made available to us.
Who's Dirty Kitty , u mean whisker kitty??
Chery we gonna name this site after you, "Fishingtx" :oops:

MRCATTER
01-20-2005, 12:22 PM
NO NOT THEM IM TALKING ABOUT THE MU*CA* SITE

algonzo
01-20-2005, 12:23 PM
Good stuff there Steve. Looks like an awesome idea. This needs to go in the How-To section aswell.

Good luck and I hope you got you some fish on your day off.

dwaynez
01-20-2005, 12:50 PM
Good Call Algonzo the Knowledge Base will continue to grow with great posts like that with pictures to go along with it.

algonzo
01-20-2005, 01:57 PM
Can somebody post a link of this and my Chum Capsules on the How-To section?

Thanks...

One question about this method. Considering that the pipe inside is already white, and the bottle is clear, do you guys think that it will still need to be painted white in the state of texas? Or will the white in the inside be enough?

dwaynez
01-20-2005, 02:42 PM
Algonzo

Cheryl has put both topics in the Knowledge Base,

Also better to be safe than sorry on the jug color, I would probably color the jug white to be sure.

flatcats
01-20-2005, 05:27 PM
Algonzo,

I used my little jug today and I really don't think Texas would approve of it. I'm assuming the white color is so that it can either be seen so as to retrieve it or as a potential obstacle to avoid. The one I used today would probably dissappear on you pretty quickly even if there was only a little wave motion. And since it's clear it looks more like floating trash than anything else, even with the white pipe.
If I ever make any more of this style I'll be painting them white or yellow like you do in Texas so I can see them easier and they won't get hit by watercraft accidentally. Here's a pic of it on some real lake water today.
BTW, we all got skunked so badly the skunk didn't even bother showing up.

Steve

http://www.charliescatfishbaitsoap.com/jug1.jpg

dpiper
01-20-2005, 06:17 PM
Jugs are required to be white by TPWD. Commercial jugs are required to be orange.

algonzo
01-20-2005, 11:27 PM
So that means no catfish for dinner for you tonight then right? Oh well, there's always next.

It's a perfect alternative to the foam flagging jugs, just incase there is no foam around.

Good stuff, at least you made it to the lake, while the rest of us were at work. Lucky you....

dwaynez
01-21-2005, 08:26 AM
Yep

I was stuck at my desk listening to eveyone talk about going to the lake, well at least you got the test the jug in a real life scenerio. There is always tomorrow to catch some cats.